A retired nurse's personal health story

LETTER

I am an elderly retired NZRN/MN, NZ DipN (SANZ) with other post-registration nursing and university qualifications.

In August 1958, so as to continue my education to become a Registered Nurse, I had to have in quick succession a barrage of six or seven mercury-laden vaccinations, among them for typhoid fever. That vaccine and one for another disease (possibly smallpox) made me so ill I could not go on duty for several days. A small number of my fellow students also became ill after some of the vaccinations. All I knew about mercury was from a fourth form science lab session. I did not learn that it was a powerful neurological toxin. In 1958 we student nurses were not told the vaccinations contained mercury.

In 1962 I swallowed the contaminated SV40 polio vaccine. The knowledge that it was contaminated was concealed from New Zealanders by successive governments. However, around 1981, the “tatty” weekly Truth exposed this fact.

By age 25 my health was “shot”. I had frequent time off sick, and ran out of sick leave year after year.

In 1972 I was diagnosed with an incurable auto-immune eye disease and was told that I would inevitably become blind.

In 1982 I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis — an auto-immune disease. I taught about MS.

Because I knew allopathic medicine had nothing to offer me re MS treatment, I eschewed all drug treatment (knowing that all pharmaceutical drugs are, in truth, toxic, poisonous chemicals and only ever suppress symptoms).

Since 1983, to support my health, I have used high doses of nutrients — all the RDAs for which are ridiculously low.

I determined myself that mercury in the vaccinations was the cause of my ill health. None of my four siblings had those vaccinations, none of them has MS (or any other auto-immune disease). As well, a holistic-practicing doctor informed me in 2004 that mercury was the cause of my auto-immune diseases.

I have lived for years, and still do, with the damaging effects of mercury and the SV40 polio vaccine.

I think anyone who believes that injecting animal cells, toxic metals and other harmful adjuvants into the bodies of babies and young children, especially, is deluding themselves that they have a scientific perspective.

Animal cells are meant only to be ingested — never injected.

But all vaccinations are a threat to health at any road.

In my opinion, after extensive research, high-dose vitamin C is the answer to many of the very pressing health dangers to human beings. It is a superb bactericide, virucide, fungicide and detoxifier. Intravenous vitamin C is a registered medicine in New Zealand, yet NZ allopathic doctors will not use it! Why? I take minimally 15,000mg vitamin C daily — often as much as 20,000mg and more if necessary. I haven’t had flu or a cold for the past 34 years. After 20 years of not less than 20,000mg vitamin C daily, my auto-immune eye disease became quiescent and has not recurred. It is impossible to overdose on vitamin C.

It can take many years for the health-damaging effects of vaccinations to manifest.

I. Hutchinson, Waiuku

I am an elderly retired NZRN/MN, NZ DipN (SANZ) with other post-registration nursing and university qualifications.

In August 1958, so as to continue my education to become a Registered Nurse, I had to have in quick succession a barrage of six or seven mercury-laden vaccinations, among them for typhoid fever. That vaccine and one for another disease (possibly smallpox) made me so ill I could not go on duty for several days. A small number of my fellow students also became ill after some of the vaccinations. All I knew about mercury was from a fourth form science lab session. I did not learn that it was a powerful neurological toxin. In 1958 we student nurses were not told the vaccinations contained mercury.

In 1962 I swallowed the contaminated SV40 polio vaccine. The knowledge that it was contaminated was concealed from New Zealanders by successive governments. However, around 1981, the “tatty” weekly Truth exposed this fact.

By age 25 my health was “shot”. I had frequent time off sick, and ran out of sick leave year after year.

In 1972 I was diagnosed with an incurable auto-immune eye disease and was told that I would inevitably become blind.

In 1982 I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis — an auto-immune disease. I taught about MS.

Because I knew allopathic medicine had nothing to offer me re MS treatment, I eschewed all drug treatment (knowing that all pharmaceutical drugs are, in truth, toxic, poisonous chemicals and only ever suppress symptoms).

Since 1983, to support my health, I have used high doses of nutrients — all the RDAs for which are ridiculously low.

I determined myself that mercury in the vaccinations was the cause of my ill health. None of my four siblings had those vaccinations, none of them has MS (or any other auto-immune disease). As well, a holistic-practicing doctor informed me in 2004 that mercury was the cause of my auto-immune diseases.

I have lived for years, and still do, with the damaging effects of mercury and the SV40 polio vaccine.

I think anyone who believes that injecting animal cells, toxic metals and other harmful adjuvants into the bodies of babies and young children, especially, is deluding themselves that they have a scientific perspective.

Animal cells are meant only to be ingested — never injected.

But all vaccinations are a threat to health at any road.

In my opinion, after extensive research, high-dose vitamin C is the answer to many of the very pressing health dangers to human beings. It is a superb bactericide, virucide, fungicide and detoxifier. Intravenous vitamin C is a registered medicine in New Zealand, yet NZ allopathic doctors will not use it! Why? I take minimally 15,000mg vitamin C daily — often as much as 20,000mg and more if necessary. I haven’t had flu or a cold for the past 34 years. After 20 years of not less than 20,000mg vitamin C daily, my auto-immune eye disease became quiescent and has not recurred. It is impossible to overdose on vitamin C.

It can take many years for the health-damaging effects of vaccinations to manifest.

I. Hutchinson, Waiuku

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Richard - 4 months ago
Crikey - so the science of vaccines has not improved since 1958-1962. Today's vaccines are not those of yesteryear and their safety in use has vastly improved during more half a century of research and development. It is stupefying and disquieting that Antivaxers continue to refer to historic incidents as proof that immunisation today is evil.
And I.H. you claim, I quote: "it is impossible to overdose on vitamin C." Wrong. Just like vitamin A and E, an individual can overdose on vitamin C and have some very unpleasant side effects, plus it can lead to the development of kidney stones and the painful consequences that follow.
This latest posting is another example of the AntiVaxer movement prompting its out-of-the-region "warriors" to join in the local fray. They seek to deny any voice of dissent. Any evidence that they are dangerously misguided. Homeopathy and organic fruit, veg n nuts will protect you better than a vaccine. They are right and the rest of the world and overwhelming proven modern medical science is wrong. The Herald and its readership should not be surprised if more battalions of AVs (at the behest of champion AntiVaxer Hilary Butler) target our local newspaper columns again and again....

Richard - 4 months ago
Vitamin C Overdose - the facts, not the AntiVaxer fiction. I.H. of Waiuku wishes for you dear readers to believe that she takes and I quote:
"I take minimally 15,000mg vitamin C daily - often as much as 20,000mg and more if necessary". "After 20 years of not less than 20,000mg vitamin C daily". "It is impossible to overdose on vitamin C?.
Apart from I.H. contradicting herself re her daily dosage - is it 15k to 20k daily - or is it "not less than 20k" but never mind, whatever, it is as much as 10 times the recommended healthy daily intake. Here's the reality if indeed such daily overdosing actually took place.
Gastrointestinal Problems:
Common side effects of vitamin C overdose involve the digestive tract. If you consume more than 2,000 mg of vitamin C, you may develop severe gastrointestinal irritation and diarrhoea. In addition to significant discomfort, extended episodes of diarrhoea or vomiting can lead to dehydration, causing extreme thirst, fatigue, low urine output and reduced blood pressure. Diarrhoea and vomiting can also cause additional mineral imbalances in the body.
Kidney Stones:
Vitamin C is broken down by the body into a substance called oxalate. Some oxalate is secreted in urine, however high urinary oxalate levels may cause formation of deposits, known as kidney stones. High vitamin C intake is associated with an increased risk of oxalate kidney stones -- accounting for approximately 80 percent of all kidney stones.
Hemochromatosis:
Hemochromatosis is a condition caused by excess iron build-up in the body. This condition is commonly inherited, and most often affects the liver, heart and pancreas. Vitamin C helps the body absorb iron. Although vitamin C overdose does not cause hemochromatosis, it can worsen the condition.

I. Hutchinson - 4 months ago
Richard, you show your lack of knowledge of the science of vitamin C. The ?kidney stones danger? is a myth. For 16 years I was troubled with recurrent kidney infections. Since taking thousands of milligrams vitamin C every day since 1983, I have not had the slightest sign of kidney or bladder infection. Richard, become informed by, for e.g., reading the wealth of information at: vitamincfoundation.org; doctoryourself.com; http://www.townsendletter.com/Klenner/KlennerProtocol_forMS.pdf https://www.peakenergy.com/ Dr Tom Levy?s website
The above are only three of the many accessible websites that inform the truth about vitamin C. Medical schools virtually worldwide do not teach nutrition to their students. NZ allopathic doctors expound on the subject of nutrition, but a little searching and reading research shoots multiple holes in the dietary pronouncements of those doctors. No drugs are capable of curing/healing any disease, because they are all toxic, poisonous chemicals that only suppress symptoms. Read the ?side effects? about any drug. As a practicing registered nurse, I had to have such knowledge in my mind at all times ? not in a computer! Nutrients are what the human body needs ? all in much higher amounts than the RDAs, virtually all of which are ridiculously low. I could write quite an essay about my personal experience of the great benefits to my much-damaged-by-vaccinations immune system, from taking for many years ONLY NUTRIENTS.

Richard - 4 months ago
As expected - the AntiVaxer claims that Vitamin C's relationship to kidney stones is a myth. And the usual AntiVax mantra - you are wrong, we are right - all drugs are toxic poisonous chemicals that only suppress. And all our "experts" are more informed than yours - here's the link. Their blah blah blah nonsense as usual.
Go ahead, write your essay - AntiVaxers have a particular parasitic pleasure in churning out the life-threatening nonsense that only nutrients cure.

Tony - 4 months ago
I'm disappointed that such anti-vaccine pseudoscientific opinion are given any newspaper space other than to deride or discredit. The science is clear that vaccines are safe and are beneficial to humankind by preventing the spread of disease and in the case of smallpox, its elimination. The greater danger to health is this antivax nonsense. Its proponents should be categorised with other lunatic fringes such as flat earthers, chem trail conspiracy theorists and those who believe a reptilian-alien species lives among us.
I encourage The Herald to make its position clear on this issue through its editorial.

Footnote from ed:
Refer to
http://gisborneherald.co.nz/opinion/2847456-135/challenges-to-key-medical-intervention-dont

I. Hutchinson - 4 months ago
Richard - whatever your real name is - I reply to your latest anonymous writing. As a NZ Registered Psychiatric Nurse/ex-Psychiatric Nurse tutor, I am aware that such anonymity is a sign of FEAR! What is it that you FEAR Richard? You also do not validly support your accusations/assertions with any referential data in support of your position vis-?vis either vitamin C or vaccines. I at least have established my credentials and bona fides for all readers to see (and these can be checked with the Nursing Council of NZ if you wish to). Why don?t you provide evidence Richard, such as I have done to some extent, and as other letter writers about vaccines particularly, have done. To clarify, I don?t ?claim? that ?Vitamin C's relationship to kidney stones is a myth?; it is an established fact. I think you would serve yourself if you did some reading of valid, reliable research ? it is not all that difficult to find. I commend to you the website of Dr. Matthias Rath, M.D. wherein he writes on the issue of the suppression of symptoms by pharmaceutical drugs. To continually disparage people who have knowledge and experience that you clearly lack ? judging by your writing - shows, in my opinion, that you resort to the Defence Mechanism of Projection. In such of your letters that I have read, what you mostly do is put down other letter writers whose opinions differ from yours, regardless of their's being grounded in valid, reliable science. Putting others down is indicative of an unhappy, fundamentally insecure person. Your latest ?reply/response? to my last letter to the Editor simply is not worthy of any further response from me. I wish you well.

I. Hutchinson

S. Williams - 4 months ago
I noticed the editor's footnote to Tony's post. Our editor fails to further assure Tony that my reply to his editorial wasn't printed in the newspaper, leaving his editorial unchallenged. Excellent journalism!
Is Tony the same person as Richard or the unnamed person in your editorial who "privately urged" you to shut down the debate? We don't know who Richard, Tony or the un-named person are, but we can infer that our editor is prepared to shut down the debate on their urging!!
Our editor and these private people ask for evidence, for science. When they are supplied with evidence and science, then they complain about "surfeit of links" and accuse those who supplied these evidence, from medical sources, as conspiracy theorist and the science as pseudoscience!! There are thousands of medical studies documenting the dangers of vaccines. Have a look here:
http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/medical-studies-concerning-vaccines/

Once upon a time, "Sun revolves around the earth" was accepted science. Those who challenged the "accepted science" were attacked, discredited and burned at the stake! The judge and the jury and the executioners were the same body. They were fearful of those who challenged "their science" and hence their authority. Now, it has fallen on vaccine shills to shut any debate on vaccines and protect a trillion-dollar industry that makes its profits from vaccinating perfectly healthy children and making them life-long clients of Pharma industry and medical industry. Our health system is buckling under the weight of supporting the illness industry. If you can't provide us with peer-reviewed research showing heavy metals and formaldehyde and aborted fetus DNA and animal DNA and other nasty ingredients in vaccines cannot cause neurological and autoimmune illnesses and cancer, then we need to stop vaccination immediately.
The tax-payer dollars, instead of filling the coffers of BIG Pharma at the expense of children's health, can be used for building warm houses for our kids and providing their families with means for good nutrition. We will have enough money left over to provide, once again, free university education for our students.
PS. If the editor was truly upholding freedom of speech, I could expect this and my previous reply to his editorial to be printed in The Gisborne Herald.


Richard - 4 months ago
S.W. the AntiVaxer EXPECTS the editor should print whatever they say in the newspaper! Yes dear reader - Antivaxers do seek edititorial control over all media as I've previously stated. By the job description of the post, an editor edits their newspaper not the AntiVaxer. Instead you should feel happy that so much coverage has been given to you and your colleagues' nonsense. And I.H. / S.W. and the whole AntiVaxer mob, you know why I do not reveal my full name, contact data etc..
For the readership - the AntiVaxer movement like that other dangerous cult, the "Church of Scientologhy", has a habit of trolling folks who reject their nonsense deliberately making their lives and that of their family a constant misery. I am not foolish enough to allow that to happen. The Gisborne Herald editor knows who I am and can by the power invested in his role - edit, redact, or indeed not publish my comments.
I.H. the only thing I fear is a growing community of unvaccinated children that will break down the local communities long-held immunisation protection, rendering this and countless communities worldwide more susceptible to a resurgence of deadly diseases. It is you the AntiVaxer who preaches fear and spreads falsehoods into healthy communities.
And finally AntiVaxers, you write of evidence and forward your links as proof. All those many links have been debunked globally as mouthpieces of those flawed pieces of research by characters who themselves are flawed. Your spokespersons have been named and shamed, their pseudoscientific research damned, their case studies of miraculous nutritional healing and protection independently investigated and found deficient.

lloyd gretton - 4 months ago
There are claims on YouTube that NASA whistle blowers are saying NASA has discovered the sun really does go around the earth. That has led me to think why is it that space rockets always arrive at pin point accuracy on earth even though the earth is supposed to be spinning at four hundred miles an hour. Also, why are satellites always perfectly synchronised with the earth's spin? No doubt there are perfect scientific reasons for that also.

Richard - 4 months ago
Forget all their fluff and flannel, their thousands of words, hundreds of weblinks, tens of pathetic ill-judged self diagnosis and miraculous remedies, here's the rational reality behind the AntiVaxer movement.

http://www.csicop.org/si/show/anti-vaccination_movement

Hilary Butler - 4 months ago
To the mysterious Richard, who claims that the dastardly evil anti-vaccine make the provaccine so fearful for their lives that Richard, Tony and 'other' must remain anonymous, . . . Sounds like a magic mushroom trip gone wrong to me.
I note Richard, that the editor hasn't published any of your letters in print. Presumably because after journalistic analysis, that is not possible, based on your vitriole, lack of stable logic, and abundant hot air, thereby contributing nothing to the discussion. Even a school debate team would deny your application for membership.
But then you run this up your flagpost: ***"For the readership - the AntiVaxer movement like that other dangerous cult, the "Church of Scientologhy", has a habit of trolling folks who reject their nonsense deliberately making their lives and that of their family a constant misery. I am not foolish enough to allow that to happen. The Gisborne Herald editor knows who I am and can by the power invested in his role - edit, redact, or indeed not publish my comments.***
Trolling cognitive dissonance is a waste of time. We are not interested in trolling anyone period. This dead argument was started by Dr Offit himself, in order to garner sympathy. the problem is that there have been ZERO prosecutions and ZERO police investigations. "I'm sure if your rash assertions had any substance at all, the evidence would be more than front page news. Lance O'Sullivan would dine off it for life.
You certainly appear to have plenty of time on your hands. Here is a suggestion. Why not use your time productively by reading the new New Zealand Department of Health handbook published last month. Check out all their references, and make a list of the mistakes they have made, both regarding facts and references. But first you might want to read, starting with the 1993 handbook, so that you can see how the arguments have changed over 25 years, as well as just how much of the "science" has now disintegrated into what epidemiologists call "the faggot fallacy".

Now, I will return to productive use of my time.....

Tony - 4 months ago
"I determined myself that mercury in the vaccinations was the cause of my ill health." This says volumes about any scientific research in this opinion piece. Please, if I'm referred to research, refrain from YouTube videos and the views of discredited snake oil salesmen. Also, well done Richard - and, no, I have no knowledge of anything about you other than your first name.
Thanks ed for directing me to the editorial.

Richard - 4 months ago
Hilary
You can be as menacing with your script as you want, and continue to misinform as you feel it is your want. You cannot bully those who know that immunisation is the sensible approach to preventing unnecessary suffering - not nutrition.
You can threaten the editor as you did on another posting saying hey ho I've copied my posting and will put it on my web site if you don't publish. This is exactly the puerile playground you AntiVaxers occupy.
And don't expand your argument into the legality of your comments - again seeking the high moral ground by hiding behind ground zero. Of course there has not been. You cannot prosecute an idea unless of course you reside in North Korea, China, Russia and many other states around the globe that like you do not tolerate open dissent.
The only productivity you know is that of falsehood, and of that there's no doubt that you are indeed, like your other colleagues in the AntiVax movement, very productive.

S. Williams - 4 months ago
Tony, it is a well-known fact that smallpox was well on its way out before vaccination for it even started. And even then, only 10 percent of the world population was vaccinated with smallpox vaccine. So the reason for smallpox disappearance has nothing to do with vaccines. It even disappeared in countries where no smallpox vaccine was used. It was most likely due to better hygiene and improvement in living conditions.
I can't even call your assertions pseudoscientific, because they are outright myths, lies and misinformation. Educate yourself. Repeating these lies won't make them correct, but it is dangerous to the health of our children.
I always wonder what kind of person would propagate lies and fears in order to inject little kids with harmful chemicals, pathogens and heavy metals. The only answer could be pharma companies and their shills. They are the ones who benefit from the ill-health of our kids and our adults.
Regarding mercury, again, you show the depth of your ignorance. Go and read the scientific literature and educate yourself about why mercury should not be injected into the human body. It is a known neurotoxin. If you are so versed with science, why don't you refer us to peer-reviewed research that shows injecting mercury or aluminium into the human body is safe.
I. Hutchinson is a retired registered nurse and a nurse tutor, with much credibility and research background - more than we can say for you, hiding behind a first name, repeating tired old myths about vaccines, with no science to back your claims up with. Well, it is not your fault, there is not such science and plenty to the contrary.

S. Williams - 4 months ago
Richard, you are the one who should be grateful to Editor for letting you spew so much vile into this debate, contributing nothing of substance while hiding behind a first name. As you call me S.W. the antivaxxer, shall I call you Richard-the-Shill or O'Sullivan's double? You and Dr. O'sullivan both lack logic in your arguments and come across as incoherent, all over the place.
Again you sound like Dr. O'Sullivan, with your allegation of threats from "antiVaxxers" to you and your family!! Why don't you take these threats, if any, to the Police? Hot air again Richard to justify hiding behind a name and hiding your association with vaccine industry?
On the other hand, it could be vaccine industry bosses who have told you to write anonymously, as you do more damage to their cause by your attacks, smear tactics and non-existent logics. You could be shaming vaccine industry and also yourself, to be shown publicly what flimsy logic you use to justify vaccinating innocent kids. Would look even worse if you were a medical doctor as well!
Your assertion that vaccination, not nutrition can prevent illness, shows the depth of your ignorance. Vaccinated kids do get those illnesses as much as unvaccinated, in spite of booster shots. Healthy kids can handle childhood illness with good nutrition and support. Unhealthy kids, a majority of them vaccinated, need to be helped to good health with good nutrition and good support and detoxing of vaccine poisons. None needs poisonous vaccines!
Ask yourself, if you are so sure of vaccine benefits, why are you so scared of anti-vaxxers? Surely parents can hear both sides of the argument and make an informed decision. You do want parent to be informed, when they accept a medical procedure (as Dr. O'Sullivan calls it), don't you? He says all medical procedures carry risks. So, parents can decide if they want to expose their kids to such risks!

S. Williams - 4 months ago
Richard, you say "the only thing I fear is a growing community of unvaccinated children that will break down the local communities long-held immunisation protection, rendering this and countless communities worldwide more susceptible to a resurgence of deadly diseases."
This sentence, by itself shows how ignorant you are about "vaccine science", if we can call it that! Vaccination doesn't result in immunity. That is why vaccinated kids are just as likely as unvaccinated kids to get any illness, except that their immune system is compromised due to poisons in the vaccines, hence putting them at greater risk. Many outbreaks indeed happen among fully vaccinated kids and communities. Hence the reason for booster shots and still kids can get the exact illness they were vaccinated against. The vaccination doesn?t result in immunity, it only results in appearance of some antibodies, indicating contamination, not cell-immunity. Only when a kid has been exposed to a childhood illness, can develop TRUE immunity, cell-immunity plus antibodies, lasting a life-time. And not only that, childhood illnesses strengthen the immune system in fighting other viruses. Mothers who have natural immunity can pass this to their unborn and to their infant while breastfeeding. The immune system of such child, with good nutrition and good environment, can deal with any childhood illnesses.
If you truly care about community's health, you should be very alarmed that vaccination ruins natural immunity of a community developed during many generations. Have you not heard of indigenous communities who were nearly wiped out by "White-man's" disease? They didn't have natural immunity for that disease. That is what you are doing with these vaccines, you are destroying natural immunity of our communities. A mother who has no natural immunity cannot pass it to her kids, those vaccine antibodies are good for nothing. If the whole of a community has been vaccinated and has no natural immunity to fight these illnesses, that is when they are most susceptible to an outbreak. Not to mention, their totally compromised immune systems due to vaccines and their poisons (mercury, aluminium, formaldehyde, human DNA, monkey DNA, etc.).

Richard - 4 months ago
SW I am honoured that I am worthy of your 960 word plus diatribe of the usual repetitive character assassination and AV falsehoods. Seriously you must try harder to inject some factual realism into your argument.

Richard - 4 months ago
Hilary Butler writes and denies the AntiVaxers have ever trolled, bullied or mobbed opposing voices. She claims in her earlier post that "they never do". What a blatant lie. The truth is they have and still do.
Here are just a few examples of the many who have been victimised by this morally corrupt community of fakery.

Brian Deer is an investigative journalist who exposed Andrew Wakefield's vaccine research as fraudulent. "I am subject to relentless abuse, emails telling me how can I sleep at night because of what I've done and that I'm working for the drug industry and that I'm somehow involved in some sort of global conspiracy to harm children." [Brian does not work for the pharma industry]

Juniper Russo is a single US mother. Once there was no doubt in her mind that vaccinations were a conspiracy. She used to be part of the AntiVax movement. Juniper now writes a blog - "Back from Nature" - in which she advocates evidence-based healthcare. Like journalist Brian Deer, she's faced a vicious backlash and even threats from AntiVaxers for changing her views on immunisation.

Like Brian and Juniper, many other individuals are trolled and bullied by the AntiVaxers for publicly exposing their falsehoods and emotional mobbing. The AV's tactics even sought to harness support in the aftermath of terrorist attacks in London, with their street action timed to divert attention from that horrific event. Note the very expensive Range Rover used as their grandstand - that's where the AV's supporters donations go - to provide a luxury lifestyle for the hierarchy of quackery. Disgusting - just like their manipulation of real scientific data. Follow the link for the evidence:

https://www.facebook.com/avwos.thespudd

S. Williams - 3 months ago
Richard, whenever I read your posts, this quote comes to my mind.
"Never underestimate the stupidity of idiots!"
perhaps this would be more appropriate in your case:
"Never underestimate the stupidity of anonymous idiots!"
And don't kid yourself, I do not write for you. Your grey matter, is impervious to any logic, sense, science, truth or facts. You just repeat falsehoods, like a good shill would. I am writing to encourage parents to do their own research before letting anyone like you near their kids with a needle!
You have no credibility and anyone reading these pages can judge for themselves how much they can trust someone like you who doesn't have the courage of their conviction to introduce themselves and reveal their "vested interest"! And unlike you, I welcome all the arguments that vaccine shills put forward. It gives parents opportunity to see what flimsy science is used to vaccinate their kids.

Richard - 3 months ago
By now SW the readers of this Opinion thread will have concluded from your last posting that your favourite word is "shill" and furthermore, that you seek to obscure the thread's core subject matter with pernicious fog and mirrors. That tactic is straight out of the AntiVaxer guerrilla book of subversive warfare. Nonetheless, the strategic problem with it is that it leads the antagonist with no room for constructive input, just a never-ending denunciation of abuse in ever decreasing circles. A downward spiral into a black void.
Vituperation does not further your cause, it does not raise the credibility of your position or underpin the calibre of your thesis. My conduct in this debate has been such that no moral obloquy could reasonably be attached. The science and truth behind immunisation effectiveness will prevail.

S. Williams - 3 months ago
Richard, you underestimate Gisborne Herald's readers. Everything you say describes you and your contribution to these pages so well. If anyone had any doubt about your purpose on these pages, you now spilled the beans by sharing your aspiration and your goal.
Me and others never stoop to your level, as we don't need to. We are capable of using facts and data to back up our arguments. You can't, so you continually engage in attacking people. You sound incoherent, all over the place; someone who uses fancy words without knowing their meaning. You fail to impress us miserably, as hard as you try!
It would damage the journalistic integrity of The Gisborne Herald if it turns out that you are e.g. Dr. O'Sullivan, or a medical doctor or employed by public health sector or by Pharma industry and do not reveal your title/job (forget about your name). Readers need to know in which capacity you utter so much nonsense. For example, is writing on these pages part of your job, for which you get paid?
Editor, could you please let us know your policy re anonymous contributors? Do you feel it is justified to ask the official capacity of "Richard"? He seems scared to use his real name. Are we entitled to at least know his official capacity and his possible "vested interests" in the vaccine debate?

Footnote from Ed: Richard has been commenting on a variety of local issues on the Gisborne Herald website for over a year now. He has been invited a couple of times to put his surname to a comment to also have it run the newspaper, but has declined as he prefers to remain anonymous.

Richard - 3 months ago
SW - the employment position, career, or relationship to one industry or another, their religion, cultural background, financial circumstances, their investment strategy, ethnicity, nationality or location has no bearing upon an individual's intellectual capacity to comment upon any subject. The only caveat would be their knowledge in the matter being discussed.
If I drive a car can I not discuss the landscape through which I travel?
It is clear from your own comments that you seek to exclude the medical profession and the pharma industry from this opinion thread - why? - it can only be that you fear the truth regarding the safety and success of vaccine programmes. It just reveals to the readers that AntiVaxers prefer to go unchallenged, to have free reign over the Gisborne Herald opinion column to the exclusion of all other dissenting voices.
And no I will not be bullied into giving you my professional or contact details for the reason I have expressed a couple of times now, and again to make clear, it is because the AntiVax movement troll, bully and mob those who hold opposing views on immunisation.