Greens have gone off the rails

LETTER

Many New Zealanders are very disappointed with the Green Party led by Metiria Turei and supported by Bob Hughes in our local paper.

While the Greens have advocated for better things on environmental issues, the party has really gone off the rails recently.

We have read from Bob about eliminating dairy cows, being socialists rather than capitalists, global change and overpopulation. His comments are always negative with no cheerfulness about the future. I feel something has to be said.

Firstly, eliminating cows because of global warming. New Zealand farmers are the most efficient dairy producers in the world, and earn overseas funds that are essential for our wellbeing.

We need capitalists because these achievers provide jobs, and God knows how much we need jobs around here.

Overpopulation is an issue in some parts of the world but we can cope with it through better energy use, solar power in particular, driving electric cars and rail.

It saddens me to see the GDC wants to charge us for water when everybody can collect their own. Places like Wainui and Makorori are blessed with people who are basically self-sufficient and good for the environment. They do not need water reticulation, in my opinion.

New Zealanders are interested that Metiria Turei owned up to wrongfully claiming money from Social Welfare as a solo parent, and disappointed that she has condoned others who are ripping Winz off.

Ms Turei now promises to pay it back, which is commendable. However, this is a crime that could end up with an additional fine, a sentence and interest costs as well.

I compare this offence with National’s Todd Barclay who lost his job in Parliament because he wanted proof of alleged derogatory words spoken behind his back in his office. This is a minor sin compared to what Ms Turei did, so surely her job should also be on the line.

I wonder then why Bob Hughes supports the Greens. While they have risen in the latest political poll, I think they have lost all credibility with most New Zealanders.

I think Bob is flogging a dead horse.

Alain Jorion

Many New Zealanders are very disappointed with the Green Party led by Metiria Turei and supported by Bob Hughes in our local paper.

While the Greens have advocated for better things on environmental issues, the party has really gone off the rails recently.

We have read from Bob about eliminating dairy cows, being socialists rather than capitalists, global change and overpopulation. His comments are always negative with no cheerfulness about the future. I feel something has to be said.

Firstly, eliminating cows because of global warming. New Zealand farmers are the most efficient dairy producers in the world, and earn overseas funds that are essential for our wellbeing.

We need capitalists because these achievers provide jobs, and God knows how much we need jobs around here.

Overpopulation is an issue in some parts of the world but we can cope with it through better energy use, solar power in particular, driving electric cars and rail.

It saddens me to see the GDC wants to charge us for water when everybody can collect their own. Places like Wainui and Makorori are blessed with people who are basically self-sufficient and good for the environment. They do not need water reticulation, in my opinion.

New Zealanders are interested that Metiria Turei owned up to wrongfully claiming money from Social Welfare as a solo parent, and disappointed that she has condoned others who are ripping Winz off.

Ms Turei now promises to pay it back, which is commendable. However, this is a crime that could end up with an additional fine, a sentence and interest costs as well.

I compare this offence with National’s Todd Barclay who lost his job in Parliament because he wanted proof of alleged derogatory words spoken behind his back in his office. This is a minor sin compared to what Ms Turei did, so surely her job should also be on the line.

I wonder then why Bob Hughes supports the Greens. While they have risen in the latest political poll, I think they have lost all credibility with most New Zealanders.

I think Bob is flogging a dead horse.

Alain Jorion

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lloyd gretton - 2 months ago
Metiria's offence was victimless. Any extra money she got went straight to the local businesses. It always amuses me how Rodney Hyde and Cameron Slater have both been in legal trouble and yet berate Metiria. She at least used her extra money to feed her child. Rodney used his to feed his girlfriend and Cameron to grandstand. I suppose the difference is Metiria was a welfare recipient and therefore must be as pure as snow.

Peter Andrew - 2 months ago
Yes, Michael Cullen once said he was surprised that the Greens pretend to care about the planet when they spend such little time on it. True words indeed.

Bob Hughes - 2 months ago
Alain is wrong. The Greens are still on the tracks (rails). Yet, quite right, we have advocated for better things on environmental issues.
Also he is right that places like Wainui and Makorori are blessed with people who are basically self-sufficient and good for the environment. I add it would be wise for all residential properties, town and otherwise, to likewise collect their own rainwater.
Mr Jorion is somewhat mistaken though in suggesting great numbers of dairy cows are essential for our well-being.
He also said New Zealanders are very disappointed with the Green party led by Metiria Turei and supported by me.
The rise in the polls shows that our co-leader as a politician is proving herself to be honest and has not lost the Greens all credibility.
And Bob Hughes is not flogging a dead horse, thank you.

Heather Leigh - 2 months ago
Mr Hughes, is it possible to be honest and yet hold an admission of fraud for 25 years? I guess so, if you're a Greens supporter.

John McDougall - 2 months ago
Can't you stick to catching fish and admiring Donald Trump, Alain? Your arguments have as many holes as a ladder. Dairying is a major contributor to river and stream pollution. Dairy products are linked to cancer (World Cancer Research Fund and American Institute for Cancer Research).
Money essential to our wellbeing? When will we learn that when our water is filthy and our land is polluted, we can't eat money?
Capitalists provide jobs? Citizens, more likely, provide jobs by choosing where we spend our money. Many 'capitalists' are so focused on making money that they let nothing stand in their way: not clean air, not clean water, not a healthy food supply, certainly not the future of the planet, whose atmosphere, rivers, seas and land many use as a dumping ground for pollution.
Citizens of rich nations use and destroy far more resources than those in poor countries; species are being extinguished at an alarming rate (the sixth mass extinction is happening under our watch); the polar icecaps are melting; half of the Great Barrier Reef has died over the past two summers; wild fires are becoming more frequent, intense and the seasons are lasting longer all over the world; permafrost is melting and belching out methane ... the world is not going to meet the Paris Agreement's goal of limiting global warming to 2 degrees. Alain's solution? We all drive electric cars. This is so puerile I won't dignify it with a response.
As an aside, Todd Barclay's crime was illegally taping a member of his staff and then lying to police and to his party and to the nation, something a few of us might have thought, uh, isn't that, for someone in political office, in government, wrong?
Business as usual, Alain, is destroying the planet we live on. Voting as usual perpetuates this destruction. No jobs on a dead planet.
And by the way, admiring Donald Trump? How's that working for you?

Donald Robson - 2 months ago
If only we could all live in the rose-tinted realm of a simpleton, where facts don't count, diversity is banished, and bloviating demagogues are a solution. Now that would be progress.

Delwyn Arthur - 2 months ago
* Not "eliminating" cows, just reducing to an acceptable level, and reducing pollution of waterways, overuse of water for irrigation, importing of palm kernel, over inflation of land values, and possibly contribution to the incidence and spread of imported diseases.
* Capitalists provide jobs? OK - underpaid, overworked and waiting since 1984 for the trickle down to start working. Meanwhile the rich get richer . . .
* Why should ratepayers subsidise those who waste water? Don't capitalists approve of user pays?
* Maybe the original offence of Todd Barclay was minor, but I don't consider the string of lies and evasions which followed minor - I don't think these are the moral values required in our politicians, even if they are becoming commonplace.

Stick with it Bob, I admire your wisdom, knowledge and perseverance in trying to warn people where this planet is heading.

Alan Loye - 2 months ago
Does this mean now that I can commit fraud twice and then claim that I will not accept a Ministerial position after the election, and that is a valid excuse to absolve my misdoings?? If that premise is acceptable it becomes a very dangerous precedent for a democracy . . . . Strange to me that out of the 110 MPs, to my knowledge not one has challenged this; maybe all waiting to see which way the wind is blowing.

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