Public denied our say

LETTER

I wholeheartedly agree with Karen Morrow (October 2 letter). I too was of the understanding that we lived in a democratic society. Well, I must be mistaken as it appears the council has all the say and we the people don’t have any.

I disagree with the removal of the Captain Cook statue. Yes, it may well be a sacred mountain to the Maori of our community but what about the Pakeha, don’t we count? It is history on both our sides.

As for the bridge, why was this not discussed before the work began? Some people didn’t even know about it in our community as they don’t get newspapers.

The name change — again, not public consultation, the council found wanting.

The list goes on. Yes, we elect these people to act on our behalf, expecting some public consultation in major matters.

I certainly will not be voting these people in again. I feel they are there to blow their own trumpets, and not there for the people of our city.

Wendy Williams

I wholeheartedly agree with Karen Morrow (October 2 letter). I too was of the understanding that we lived in a democratic society. Well, I must be mistaken as it appears the council has all the say and we the people don’t have any.

I disagree with the removal of the Captain Cook statue. Yes, it may well be a sacred mountain to the Maori of our community but what about the Pakeha, don’t we count? It is history on both our sides.

As for the bridge, why was this not discussed before the work began? Some people didn’t even know about it in our community as they don’t get newspapers.

The name change — again, not public consultation, the council found wanting.

The list goes on. Yes, we elect these people to act on our behalf, expecting some public consultation in major matters.

I certainly will not be voting these people in again. I feel they are there to blow their own trumpets, and not there for the people of our city.

Wendy Williams

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Lara - 14 days ago
Was that statue actually Cook or was it Nelson? I have heard so many different stories about it.
Were Maori consulted way back when the statue was envisioned and then erected on such an important site?
Is the local newspaper the only means of sourcing information and proposals in this town?
I think the original Maori names for the area are very beautiful and appropriate. Good on whoever you are who has pushed to change back to them. Love it!

G R Webb - 14 days ago
Lara, I suggest you do some historical research and you will see written the effusiveness of Maori to the events that took place at the time of the bicentenary, when the plaza and statute were opened.

Lara - 14 days ago
https://www.maoritelevision.com/news/regional/captain-cook-statue-be-relocated

Yes please GR Webb, could you please share the effusive commentary from 1969. I don't know where to look but I am sure you can point me in the right direction.
In the meantime, I have included the link to a recent article by Maori Television which was reprinted by the Dominion Post.

G R Webb - 14 days ago
Lara
http://teaohou.natlib.govt.nz/journals/teaohou/image/Mao69TeA/Mao69TeA034.html

Lara - 14 days ago
Thanks G R Webb. Great reading!
As a nation, we sure know how to put on a good show and roll out the welcome mat for manuhiri don't we? I am not sure that the 1970s reports of our good manners and hospitality towards visiting guests to Aotearoa NZ and in particular Gisborne necessarily confirms that local Maori were all for a statue of Cook on the top of the hill though.

Rae, Tamaki Makaurau - 14 days ago
Love the name Turanganui a Kiwa. Poverty Bay it should never have been. Ridiculous for a person to believe he has any right to name an area, not having spent more than an hour or two standing on the whenua, after shooting many men, as I said in my submission. Was he trying to justify the deaths by changing the name from Turanganui a Kiwa to Poverty Bay, or did he not even consider the area already had had this name for centuries?

K L - 14 days ago
Re the proposed name change; this was widely advertised and there was plenty of time to make a submission to The New Zealand Geographic Board, which many of us did.

G R Webb - 13 days ago
Lara, there is plenty of room on Titirangi for the current plaza, statute and whatever else our community wishes to erect.

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